Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/21/1997 09:05 AM Senate HES

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                SB  11 SCHOOL DEBT REIMBURSEMENT                              
                                                                              
  CHAIRMAN WILKEN  introduced  SB 11  as the next order of business            
 before the committee.  The committee took a brief at ease and                 
 Chairman Wilken announced that SB 58 would not be taken up today.             
 Chairman Wilken noted that there is an amendment for SB 11.                   
                                                                               
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  BRETT HUBER , Staff to Senator Halford, noted that Senator Halford           
 had provided the committee with an amendment for consideration.               
 The amendment is a result of testimony and committee discussion               
 during the last hearing of SB 11.  The amendment changes the date             
 of reactivation of the school bond debt reimbursement program from            
 July 1, 1995 instead of July 1, 1997.  The amendment also changes             
 the reimbursement level from 50 to 70 percent which applies to                
 future funding that receives authorization and local voter                    
 approval.  The amendment broadens the qualification criteria for              
 DOE to improve the projects which includes a reduction in school              
 districts' operating costs because of the project or facilities               
 that require modification/rehabilitation to improve the                       
 instructional program.  Mr. Huber pointed out that adoption of this           
 amendment would allow the Mat-Su three school package approved by             
 local voters in 1995 as well as the Anchorage package scheduled for           
 April for the reimbursement program.                                          
                                                                               
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  CHAIRMAN WILKEN  noted that SB 11 would be held for a committee              
 substitute to include these changes.  Mr. Morgan is present to                
 discuss the overhead charge from DOE.                                         
                                                                               
  SENATOR WARD  moved to adopt the amendment which reads as follows:           
                                                                               
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     (C) operating costs that would be reduced by the                         
   project;                                                                   
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     (D) facilities that require modification or                              
   rehabilitation for the purpose of improving the                             
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  CHAIRMAN WILKEN  noted that the reimbursement level has bounced              
 around.  He believed that it would be best to make the percentage             
 75 and discussed that with Senator Halford.  Chairman Wilken asked            
 if Mr. Huber and Senator Halford had discussed that issue.   BRETT            
 HUBER  said that he had talked with Senator Halford about that                
 issue.  Senator Halford is not opposed to that idea, that is a                
 policy call.   CHAIRMAN WILKEN  requested that Mr. Huber notify               
 Senator Halford that was discussed and requested that it be                   
 included in the forthcoming CS.                                               
                                                                               
  MIKE MORGAN , Facilities Manager for the Department of Education,            
 explained that as districts apply for reimbursement of the                    
 principle the district has paid on bonds, the interest the district           
 paid, and for any fees associated with the bonds.  When the                   
 department includes that in the budget request for the year, the              
 department adds the overhead amount to that district's request.               
 There are no reductions in the request of the district.  Mr. Morgan           
 clarified that as long as the Legislature fully funds the requests            
 of districts, the district receives 100 percent.  If there is a               
 reduction in funding, that is not taken from the districts.                   
                                                                               
 With regard to the amendment, Mr. Morgan noted that the amendment             
 was in response to a suggestion by the department.  Mr. Morgan                
 noted that as written, the amendment has language saying "if a                
 district can demonstrate an operating cost reduction".  Therefore             
 if a district shows that it can save $1,000 per year with a                   
 project, but the cost of the project is $12 million the department            
 would have to approve that project.  On the grant side, there are             
 statute provisions that specify that the grant should be reviewed             
 and in the best interest of the state.  There is an opportunity for           
 abuse.                                                                        
                                                                               
  BRETT HUBER  said that portion of the amendment was included per the         
 department's testimony at the last hearing.  Mr. Morgan's point               
 makes sense, as the criteria is broadened and the percentage of               
 state funding is increased; those are issues to review.                       
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WILKEN  asked if there was any objection to the amendment.          
 Hearing none, the amendment was adopted.  SB 11 was held for the              
 pending committee substitute.  Chairman Wilken realized there were            
 witnesses via teleconference for SB 11.                                       
                                                                               
  LARRY WIGET , Director of Government Relations for the Anchorage             
 School District, supported SB 11 and the amendment.  This Spring              
 Anchorage voters will be asked to approve a bond for capital                  
 construction in the amount of $24,593,000.  Currently, there is no            
 debt reimbursement if these bonds pass and changing the effective             
 date to July 1, 1995 would include these bonds.  Mr. Wiget said               
 that a state to local match provides an incentive for voters to               
 approve bonds, enables districts to stretch dollars to cover much             
 needed school construction and demands public accountability.                 
                                                                               
  BOB DOYLE , Finance Director for the Mat-Su School District,                 
 supported the amendment.  Mr. Doyle indicated the need for                    
 assurance that the Legislature is committed to funding SB 11 and              
 the intent of debt reimbursement.  Next year, Mat-Su expects 12,606           
 students.  Mat-Su is the third largest district in the state with             
 an annual growth of seven percent over the last 20 years.  Mr.                
 Doyle emphasized that the Mat-Su district is growing at two percent           
 per year which equates to 250 students per year.  Therefore, the              
 district would need to build a new elementary school every two                
 years in order to house those students, but that has not been done.           
 Mat-Su has 1,000 students that are taught in portables and the                
 majority of the schools are over capacity.  Mr. Doyle pointed out             
 that three necessary schools were approved by voters and are                  
 awaiting legislative support.  Mr. Doyle discussed some of the                
 projects included in the six year capital improvement program for             
 Mat-Su.                                                                       
                                                                               
  BETH MCKIBBEN , the Mat-Su Borough Planning Department, said that            
 the Mat-Su Borough is one of the fastest growing areas in the                 
 state.  Between 1990 and 1996, Mat-Su's population increased by               
 11,076 which is a 4.7 percent annual increase, the highest annual             
 growth rate in Alaska.  Since 1990, the Meadow Lakes population has           
 increased by 2,311 with an annual average growth rate of 13.1                 
 percent.  Palmer has increased by 7.9 percent annually, Big Lake by           
 7.3 percent annually, and Butte by 3 percent.  Ms. McKibben said              
 that those communities are four of the fastest growing areas in               
 Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                               
  CHARLES HUGGINS , parent and school board member, noted that most in         
 the Mat-Su district were pleased with the 50-50 proposition, and              
 even more pleased with the 70-30 proposition.  Mr. Huggins informed           
 the committee that the elementary school in Big Lake has a capacity           
 of 500 which increased to 723 students this year.  This increase              
 resulted in the need for portables and an increase in staffing.               
 Mr. Huggins  stressed that accommodating that increase in students            
 is challenging.  There have been some special sessions with the               
 community in order to determine how to reduce those numbers, but              
 that is disruptive.  The public questions why new schools cannot be           
 built.  Mr. Huggins echoed Ms. McKibben's comments that Meadow Lake           
 is one of the fastest growing areas in Alaska and there is not even           
 an elementary school in that community.  Mr. Huggins discussed the            
 situation in the Talkeetna School where the ceiling in one room is            
 covered with visqueen that connects to a hose in order to evacuate            
 the incoming water.  The amendment heads in a positive direction              
 for that situation.  Also the community is reviewing year-round               
 schooling in order to accommodate the population.                             
                                                                               
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  BARBARA LACHER , Mayor of Wasilla, believed that the ease with which         
 the amendment was adopted would indicate the ease with which the              
 forthcoming CS would be reported out of committee.  Mayor Lacher              
 hoped that when the bill is before the entire Legislature, there              
 will be a commitment to funding in the short term as well as the              
 long term.  Mayor Lacher was pleased with the consideration of the            
 increased percentage.  Mayor Lacher informed the committee that               
 increasing the percentage from 50 to 70 percent would save the                
 average homeowner $100 per year and over a 20 year bond repayment             
 that would result in a savings of $2,000 per year.  Mayor Lacher              
 said that the Mat-Su Borough would help with this legislation.                
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WILKEN  requested that Mr. Morgan submit some written               
 testimony regarding over head charges in order that the testimony             
 could be sent to some of the school districts.                                

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